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[|DRC| psycheus]

Rear View
Engine Bay 1
Engine Bay 2
Subs
d16z6 sohc vtech motor
Transmission
d16z6 Intake Manifold
Valve Cover
Valve Train

I finally got my motor to my new house. The engine bay pictures show the optima yellow top battery, strut tower brace (was on Fuggi's civic), my ghetto intake, painted valve cover, DC Headers and thats about it. What you can't see is an upgraded clutch and superlight (7 lbs)flywheel. I also put a new box for my 3 10" woofers and it hits pretty hard now. As you can also see in the vavle train picture it's pretty clean and ran perfect when it was taken out at around 100k miles from a friend. I'm going to be starting the turbo project very soon, probably this summer. I'm still debating what setup I would like to get, but.. it HAS TO BE 50 State Legal.

I would like to discuss. So far I've seen the Greddy Setups and the Eldebrock. I have the SOHC 1.6 L Vtech Motor (d16z6).

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[Mykro]

Good luck..you're probably ok if you're not in Mass. I'll be your personal helper for this car, as I am a HUGE Honda enthusiast. Let me know if you need any help at all man
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[|DRC| psycheus]

Thank you. I will post to let you know the updates. Aren't you the one with a Civic also? And how in depth is your knowledge of this setup in particular. I'd like to pick your brain on the subject.

[Mykro]

Pretty damn deep, try me Hopefully I don't look like an idiot

[|DRC| Marblecake]

I know about them. Tehehehehehehehe.....
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"Shrink" Are you a assasin? "Me" Assasin sounds so exotic. Im just a murderer.

[|DRC| psycheus]

Help me out bro. I'm looking to make 250 WHP. What do I need?

[|DRC| psycheus]

http://gallery.psycheus.com/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/Tacnit_Crew/cruise_08-27-06/HPIM1997.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/Tacnit_Crew/cruise_08-27-06/HPIM2009.jpg

My buddies and I went up in the hills to test out my new suspension. I have Neuspeed strut tower brace, Comptech rear sway, Skunk2 lower control arms, Omni Power Full Coilovers, Azena Falken tires (very sticky) mounted on Rota slipstreams (black). I've also recently added JDM foglights, JDM Yellow HIDs, Koyo Racing radiator with Samco silicon hoses and NGK plugs and wires.

Here is the link to more pics that we took that day..
http://gallery.psycheus.com/thumbnails.php?album=20&page=1

[|DRC| psycheus]

Just got my turbo!! It's on now, lol. Marble help me out! It's a greddy turbo with a pieced together kit.

[|DRC| Marblecake]

Make a list of what parts you have. Also if you dont have the small slim radiator get one. Remember oil pan has to be tapped for oil return line. Your feed will be used from the oil pressure sending unit. Also remembr the missing link.

[|DRC| psycheus]

A quick list of what I have:

Greddy (TD04H) Turbo w/ internal wastegate
Greddy downpipe
RC 440 Injectors
Warbro 255 Fuel pump (installed)
chipped P28 ECU
Turbo Timer
Intercooler (and some piping)
B&M Oil Cooler w/ filter relocate
Koyo Racing Radiator (installed)

Things I'm thinking I need (please correct me .. )

Oil sandwitch plate
Oil feed line adapter
Oil Return line
Boost controller
BOV
Make intercooler piping
Morroso Oil pan / Or stock pan with bung welded

Also Marble the turbo looks kinda ugly (rusty). I was thinking of sanding or using a wire brush to take off some of the rust and then painting it. Can I paint the turbo with calaper paint or high temp engine paint? (the cast iron part from the exhaust gas)

Here are some recent pictures: (or visit my gallery here --> gallery.psycheus.com)

http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2102.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2108.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2110.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2120.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2119.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2117.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2113.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2124.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2127.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2135.jpg
http://gallery.psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/new-turbo/normal_HPIM2136.jpg

[|DRC| Iceman]

Looking good Rick

[|DRC| Marblecake]

Dont even worry about the rust. Its mostly from the heat. It will always have that brownish red color. The heat will take car of it. Please run a filter off the turbo intake. Screen is good for the track but you dont wanna suck a pebble in it on the street. It will look like a bolt was thrown in there. Also like I said keep the boost to about 5. Thats about .35 bar for the others out there.

Go with a HKS blow off. They are always the best. The tial one is monsterous and the greddy type R is huge and sounds extra fruity.
You honda guys can put the blow off on the upper intercooler pipe also. DOnt let people say it has to be on the hot pipe"it will not fit that way on hondas."

? those arent A/C lines I see???????

Also take a table spoon of oil and put it int he oil feed and spin the wheel a few times. Lube it to make sure its ok. Also check for shaft play. You might get like a 1/16 of an inch play to it which is fine.

[|DRC| psycheus]

So painting it is useless? Ok I'll take your word for it. I'm definately planning on running a filter and would like to figure out if I can some how (I've never seen it done before) make the intake get colder air (in the fender or something) but there will be space restrictions.

HKS, huh. So you don't think the Greddy Type-S is any good?

Yes I still have A/C and the manifold is A/C friendly so I don't have to get rid of it but it would give me much better room to work with.

I'll try that oil spin test. Shaft play is minimal 1/16 or less.

So help me on a parts list... I'm still trying to sort out what I have and what I need.

[|DRC| Marblecake]

DOnt worry about a cai. It will be same temp by the time it reaches the turbo. The Intercooler is what you want cold. Remember its compressing the air. The colder the better. DOnt use to big of intercooler pipe. You will get a pressure drop and cause lag. Use like 2 1/4 max for now.

[|DRC| psycheus]

Do you know about nitrous "halo" plates for the intercooler? I was watching street tuner challenge and they had it on the V-Dub.

[|DRC| Marblecake]

They are a waste of money. Everytime you hit the button I can hear dollar signs. They are for high power and heat applications.

[|DRC| psycheus]

What is the name of those blue high temp hoses?

[|DRC| psycheus]

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-OIL-024&Category_Code=OIL

Are these them?

[|DRC| Marblecake]

There you go.

[|DRC| psycheus]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2615249137805375839&q=Honda+Blow+Off+Valves+sound&hl=en

What type of BOV is this "Synchronic BOV"

http://www.synapseengineering.com/

Know anything about this company?

[|DRC| Marblecake]

Its a cheap remake of the hks super sequential. HKS is the best and will always be the best. Fuck tial and greddy bov's. HKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HKS SSQ has a piston drive also considered a poppet. Notice how it is shaped like an HKS, there is the answer right there. The Blitz DD is a good one also. ARC make good stuff aswell. DO NOT buy the "JDM" HKS ssq it is a old style racing hks and they boost leak.

[|DRC| psycheus]

|DRC| Marblecake wrote:

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DO NOT buy the "JDM" HKS ssq it is a old style racing hks and they boost leak.

Thanks for that.. I was about to buy one from Ebay and it was just that.. "JDM HKS SSQ BOV" with piping and intercooler for $280. I thought it seemed cheap. I finally found someone local on Honda-Tech to build me my piping for around $300 for steel pipes with any type flange. Do you know of anywhere I can listen to all different types of BOVs? Also how much is that HKS SSQ BOV going for?? I though I saw some for around $220.

[|DRC| Marblecake]

Like 200-250 is about right. Remember get the steel flange. Cant weld aluminium to steel, only aluminium. Dont go too big on the mm for the hole for the bov. Also have a good set of snap ring pliers to install the bov if you get the hks.

[|DRC| psycheus]

Ok just got the HKS SSQ BOV and it was only $189 Shipped from a westcoast supplier. I also just ordered the IC piping from a local company. I just found it was easier then trying to dick around and make it myself. Also one of my concerns with the IC piping was it was in the way of the JDM foglights I just installed, however the guy I'm getting them from say it will fit with minor modifications to the fog light housing.

Looks like it's coming together. Marble I hope this BOV will be ok they only make one size for the universal bov.

https://www.optionsauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HKS-1421-SA001

[|DRC| Marblecake]

The blow off is one size, but from hks you can order bigger flanges for the ic pipe. Allows to let out more pressure.

[|DRC| psycheus]

Hey what do you think or know about recirculation?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000AUOT20/msnshop-auto-mp-20/ref=nosim

[|DRC| Marblecake]

You have no need to recirculate. Your car doesnt react odd because hondas use a map sensor, not a MAS.

[|DRC| psycheus]

Ok just got the IC piping done. I'm kind pissed b/c I bought the "kit" and it didn't fit right in a few spots, but that was to be expected, however I had to use another few pieces I made myself using a smaller size pipe to clear the downpipe. It's 2" from turbo to 180 bend around into the IC then 2.5" the rest of the way. If you wondering I just used tie wraps to test fitment and I still need to get some more t-bolt clamps.

http://psycheus.com/gallery/albums/psy-images/My%20Photography/My_Cars/civic/ic-piping/

Here's the 2.5" pipe that didn't fit well with downpipe.









Ok here's the new fitment w/ 2" pipe to clear downpipe

[|DRC| psycheus]

|DRC| Marblecake wrote:

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You have no need to recirculate. Your car doesnt react odd because hondas use a map sensor, not a MAS.

Please explain.. ? I don't understand what the difference is...

[|DRC| Marblecake]

Most cars that recirculate need it to maintain an idle. The honda does not need that.

For your silicone use marine tbolt clamps.

Did you try to rotate the compressor side of the turbo for better fitment of IC piping.

[|DRC| psycheus]

|DRC| Marblecake wrote:

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Did you try to rotate the compressor side of the turbo for better fitment of IC piping.

How? The manifold and turbo and compressor where all together when I got it.

[|DRC| psycheus]

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1818712

Also I found out what size my oil feed line is, 1/8" npt to -3an. Now would you recommend any particular oil sandwich plate?